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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.i-baguio.com/baguio-bars-booze/#comment-12576</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ivy,&lt;strong&gt;

&quot;For my friends and I we earn our money to party. our allowance that are (sic) parents give us.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s still your parents&#039; money, even if they gave you some of it. THEY earned it, not you.

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Even fraternity has a strong in pact (sic) with other police mans (sic) and people that has (sic) power.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

The so-called &quot;fraternities&quot; in Baguio give honest-to-goodness fraternities a bad name. The ones here are mere gangs of young hoodlums, recruiting minors as young as those who are still in elementary levels. In fact, they have not even come up with original names, choosing instead to mimic American street gangs like Bloods and Crips. At last the city has started asking them to behave. These young thugs should have been put in their place from the very beginning and been given lessons to learn whenever they exhibited criminal behavior. 

That some of these hoodlum-members are sons of policemen gives them that &quot;connection&quot; and that cheekiness (read &quot;kapal ng mukha&quot;). Don&#039;t tell me that this is right, or this is the way a civilized society should behave.

I ask you now, is this how you want life to be, for folks to be able to commit illegal acts because they are &quot;protected?&quot; Is it fun to be tough? Is it nice to have a boyfriend who has scars on his face, whose claim to fame is how he did not die in a fight? In the end, what is this all for? Mere fun? You think your parents raised you to be in constant danger? You think they are investing their life&#039;s work in you so you can drink and dance and be merry?

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Probably our (sic) just jealous because a lot of people rather go to Nevada Squire (sic) than your bar that you own out side (sic) Nevada.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
 
Hahaha, after Nevada, I set up a hotel, dearest, not a bar. And I am NEVER jealous of anyone&#039;s success. I openly admire folks who come up with brilliant ideas and love social entrepreneurs but cannot stand those who earn through illegal, immoral and irresponsible means.

Finally, in response to your follow up comment: I blog for many reasons -- read the other posts. You&#039;ll get the idea. One of the benefits of blogging is to be able to reach someone like you. 

For YOU to have a voice. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ivy,<strong></p>
<p>&#8220;For my friends and I we earn our money to party. our allowance that are (sic) parents give us.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s still your parents&#8217; money, even if they gave you some of it. THEY earned it, not you.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Even fraternity has a strong in pact (sic) with other police mans (sic) and people that has (sic) power.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>The so-called &#8220;fraternities&#8221; in Baguio give honest-to-goodness fraternities a bad name. The ones here are mere gangs of young hoodlums, recruiting minors as young as those who are still in elementary levels. In fact, they have not even come up with original names, choosing instead to mimic American street gangs like Bloods and Crips. At last the city has started asking them to behave. These young thugs should have been put in their place from the very beginning and been given lessons to learn whenever they exhibited criminal behavior. </p>
<p>That some of these hoodlum-members are sons of policemen gives them that &#8220;connection&#8221; and that cheekiness (read &#8220;kapal ng mukha&#8221;). Don&#8217;t tell me that this is right, or this is the way a civilized society should behave.</p>
<p>I ask you now, is this how you want life to be, for folks to be able to commit illegal acts because they are &#8220;protected?&#8221; Is it fun to be tough? Is it nice to have a boyfriend who has scars on his face, whose claim to fame is how he did not die in a fight? In the end, what is this all for? Mere fun? You think your parents raised you to be in constant danger? You think they are investing their life&#8217;s work in you so you can drink and dance and be merry?</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Probably our (sic) just jealous because a lot of people rather go to Nevada Squire (sic) than your bar that you own out side (sic) Nevada.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Hahaha, after Nevada, I set up a hotel, dearest, not a bar. And I am NEVER jealous of anyone&#8217;s success. I openly admire folks who come up with brilliant ideas and love social entrepreneurs but cannot stand those who earn through illegal, immoral and irresponsible means.</p>
<p>Finally, in response to your follow up comment: I blog for many reasons &#8212; read the other posts. You&#8217;ll get the idea. One of the benefits of blogging is to be able to reach someone like you. </p>
<p>For YOU to have a voice. <img src='http://www.i-baguio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.i-baguio.com/baguio-bars-booze/#comment-12560</link>
		<dc:creator>ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for you. This thing that you are doing is what for, your site, your blog?  What are this for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for you. This thing that you are doing is what for, your site, your blog?  What are this for?</p>
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		<title>By: ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.i-baguio.com/baguio-bars-booze/#comment-12559</link>
		<dc:creator>ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t party with our parents money. For my friends and I we earn our money to party. our allowance that are parents give us. Even though our parents gave it to us its still our. They gave it. W also have our own way to get our own money. It&#039;s not just our parents. How will else will be depend on giving our money? We can&#039;t still it! Probably our just jealous because a lot of people rather go to Nevada Squire than your bar that you own out side Nevada. You did went to teen years believe me even though how good the kid you would see or how top he/she is in the class. They could easily get influence. If your teen years is the same year us me and ever young teens you will get what I mean. Some teens has a strong influence with other people. Even fraternity has a strong in pact with other police mans and people that has power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t party with our parents money. For my friends and I we earn our money to party. our allowance that are parents give us. Even though our parents gave it to us its still our. They gave it. W also have our own way to get our own money. It&#8217;s not just our parents. How will else will be depend on giving our money? We can&#8217;t still it! Probably our just jealous because a lot of people rather go to Nevada Squire than your bar that you own out side Nevada. You did went to teen years believe me even though how good the kid you would see or how top he/she is in the class. They could easily get influence. If your teen years is the same year us me and ever young teens you will get what I mean. Some teens has a strong influence with other people. Even fraternity has a strong in pact with other police mans and people that has power.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ivy,

I do remember how it was to be a teenager, and I did listen to my peers more than my parents. But we have to remember that our parents were teenagers, too, and did the things we did (although they keep insisting their time was not as wild as ours).

And one day you will find that you are my age and shaking your head at the dangerous situations the teens find themselves in. I guess we all have to go through this cycle of life. But adults, especially those who own bars, and of course the teenagers&#039; parents, HAVE THE DUTY TO PROTECT THEM, and not be the ones who put them in danger by acting irresponsibly.

How funny that we all seek peace in our lives, and most of us find it sooner or later. Better to find it sooner.

And for all teenagers out there -- you do not know how it is to &quot;party&quot; yet (as I found out too). The feeling of partying WITH YOUR OWN MONEY, MONEY YOU WORKED FOR AND EARNED is so much better, so study, get a job, then party! By that time it is hoped that you will have enough wisdom to have fun without putting yourself in danger.

Partying with your parents&#039; money is kinda lame. Believe me.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ivy,</p>
<p>I do remember how it was to be a teenager, and I did listen to my peers more than my parents. But we have to remember that our parents were teenagers, too, and did the things we did (although they keep insisting their time was not as wild as ours).</p>
<p>And one day you will find that you are my age and shaking your head at the dangerous situations the teens find themselves in. I guess we all have to go through this cycle of life. But adults, especially those who own bars, and of course the teenagers&#8217; parents, HAVE THE DUTY TO PROTECT THEM, and not be the ones who put them in danger by acting irresponsibly.</p>
<p>How funny that we all seek peace in our lives, and most of us find it sooner or later. Better to find it sooner.</p>
<p>And for all teenagers out there &#8212; you do not know how it is to &#8220;party&#8221; yet (as I found out too). The feeling of partying WITH YOUR OWN MONEY, MONEY YOU WORKED FOR AND EARNED is so much better, so study, get a job, then party! By that time it is hoped that you will have enough wisdom to have fun without putting yourself in danger.</p>
<p>Partying with your parents&#8217; money is kinda lame. Believe me.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.i-baguio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.i-baguio.com/baguio-bars-booze/#comment-12522</link>
		<dc:creator>ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teenagers my age or just starting to be influence by other people. I already know what their thinking. People the same thing as me the same things I&#039;m doing the same things how they live. I already know  I been there I done that and this. We all have the same type of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teenagers my age or just starting to be influence by other people. I already know what their thinking. People the same thing as me the same things I&#8217;m doing the same things how they live. I already know  I been there I done that and this. We all have the same type of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.i-baguio.com/baguio-bars-booze/#comment-12521</link>
		<dc:creator>ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drinking, smoking, sex, drugs smoking and drinking I might do that drugs and sex? hell no. I know what your saying, but mostly that&#039;s why a lot of teenager rather like to go out and don&#039;t go home. It&#039;s because they can&#039;t find the things they are looking for in their own family or home. They think that people having the same problem as they are could help them. They think that they are misunderstood by parents.  They don&#039;t know how to talk to their parents. If ever I would be still there I will b still having fun at Nevada Squire that&#039;s how teenagers like me enjoy life. Then of were old I would be still going to parties because that what fun for us. As they say children are different now a days that your younger years back then. Mostly about peer pressure why teenagers do thous things. As i told you teens run to their peers because that&#039;s the time they feel part of the family. They feel better that their own family. For me people should be involved going to church. That&#039; show I change, but kinda it helps me more to be good that bad. The reason I change it&#039;s because we moved. If I&#039;m still there I will still be doing the things I always do. Going to parties having fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drinking, smoking, sex, drugs smoking and drinking I might do that drugs and sex? hell no. I know what your saying, but mostly that&#8217;s why a lot of teenager rather like to go out and don&#8217;t go home. It&#8217;s because they can&#8217;t find the things they are looking for in their own family or home. They think that people having the same problem as they are could help them. They think that they are misunderstood by parents.  They don&#8217;t know how to talk to their parents. If ever I would be still there I will b still having fun at Nevada Squire that&#8217;s how teenagers like me enjoy life. Then of were old I would be still going to parties because that what fun for us. As they say children are different now a days that your younger years back then. Mostly about peer pressure why teenagers do thous things. As i told you teens run to their peers because that&#8217;s the time they feel part of the family. They feel better that their own family. For me people should be involved going to church. That&#8217; show I change, but kinda it helps me more to be good that bad. The reason I change it&#8217;s because we moved. If I&#8217;m still there I will still be doing the things I always do. Going to parties having fun.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivy,

I&#039;m happy that you are out of Baguio City, and that you got out alive and unscathed. In the States the young cannot drink or go to bars. And this response is for all the young like you who happen to read this.

All teenagers are not necessarily troublemakers -- it&#039;s just that you cannot handle alcohol and adult situations yet like more mature folks can.

It boggles my mind how parents and guardians in the city are so uncaring about the welfare of their children that minors and jobless young adults (college students) are &quot;entitled&quot; to a night life, to be drinking, to be put in harm&#039;s way.

It bugs me how the same young folk are carrying deadly weapons like knives and guns and actually kill. It is alarming how the children&#039;s whereabouts and the company they keep are not monitored.

Bar owners have a secondary responsibility to regulate who consumes alcohol, in case parents fail in that primary responsibility of protecting the young. These people are also not doing the minors, society, the city and the world any favor because they are selfish and greedy. They actually need the immature to be there so their older customers can prey on you guys, because you do not yet know how to say &quot;no,&quot; because you are easily fooled at this point, because you have not yet experienced evil in this world and thus cannot recognize it.

The irresponsible bar owners are also a little unthinking -- instead of going for a higher mark up by catering to a more mature and spending crowd of older customers who can afford to party, they have narrowed their market because of the rowdiness of their operations and the young de-&quot;allowance&quot; market that they are attracting. 

Look at how often bars open and close in places like Nevada Square. (Sorry, I will never risk my life to party in a place like Cribs -- the beer tastes the same everywhere -- because one goes to a bar not for the booze but for the kind of people one wants to party with).

But Ivy, recognizing this, let me appeal to a nice young, thinking person like you. Drinking, smoking, sex, drugs and the company of your peers seems to be all that is exciting at this point, but really, all we want all our lives is love and acceptance. The kind of &quot;love&quot; and &quot;acceptance&quot; found in bars and in gangs is not real, good or necessary.

Study while you can, enjoy family while you can (for family loves and protects unconditionally and you don&#039;t want to learn this the hard way), choose good friends, enjoy the sunlight and sleep early. Partying comes after a long day of work, with money you earned yourself. 

Once you&#039;ve grown up, you will not ever be young again. Try to hold on to your youth as long as you can.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that you are out of Baguio City, and that you got out alive and unscathed. In the States the young cannot drink or go to bars. And this response is for all the young like you who happen to read this.</p>
<p>All teenagers are not necessarily troublemakers &#8212; it&#8217;s just that you cannot handle alcohol and adult situations yet like more mature folks can.</p>
<p>It boggles my mind how parents and guardians in the city are so uncaring about the welfare of their children that minors and jobless young adults (college students) are &#8220;entitled&#8221; to a night life, to be drinking, to be put in harm&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>It bugs me how the same young folk are carrying deadly weapons like knives and guns and actually kill. It is alarming how the children&#8217;s whereabouts and the company they keep are not monitored.</p>
<p>Bar owners have a secondary responsibility to regulate who consumes alcohol, in case parents fail in that primary responsibility of protecting the young. These people are also not doing the minors, society, the city and the world any favor because they are selfish and greedy. They actually need the immature to be there so their older customers can prey on you guys, because you do not yet know how to say &#8220;no,&#8221; because you are easily fooled at this point, because you have not yet experienced evil in this world and thus cannot recognize it.</p>
<p>The irresponsible bar owners are also a little unthinking &#8212; instead of going for a higher mark up by catering to a more mature and spending crowd of older customers who can afford to party, they have narrowed their market because of the rowdiness of their operations and the young de-&#8221;allowance&#8221; market that they are attracting. </p>
<p>Look at how often bars open and close in places like Nevada Square. (Sorry, I will never risk my life to party in a place like Cribs &#8212; the beer tastes the same everywhere &#8212; because one goes to a bar not for the booze but for the kind of people one wants to party with).</p>
<p>But Ivy, recognizing this, let me appeal to a nice young, thinking person like you. Drinking, smoking, sex, drugs and the company of your peers seems to be all that is exciting at this point, but really, all we want all our lives is love and acceptance. The kind of &#8220;love&#8221; and &#8220;acceptance&#8221; found in bars and in gangs is not real, good or necessary.</p>
<p>Study while you can, enjoy family while you can (for family loves and protects unconditionally and you don&#8217;t want to learn this the hard way), choose good friends, enjoy the sunlight and sleep early. Partying comes after a long day of work, with money you earned yourself. </p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve grown up, you will not ever be young again. Try to hold on to your youth as long as you can.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.i-baguio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ivy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem for bar owners is, they insist of letting young teenagers like me to go inside of Neveada Square.To earn more money eve though they know that teenagers are trouble makers. Have you tried going inside cribs? You could see the majority of people inside that bar is teenagers 30 and below or 27 and below. I always hang out there when I was still living in the Philippines. Sometimes we go inside Nevada Square. Almost all of my friends are under age like me. Some are 17,16,15,14,. Then they say only 18 yrs could go in! I think not.They don&#039;t even check I.D. they just let them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for bar owners is, they insist of letting young teenagers like me to go inside of Neveada Square.To earn more money eve though they know that teenagers are trouble makers. Have you tried going inside cribs? You could see the majority of people inside that bar is teenagers 30 and below or 27 and below. I always hang out there when I was still living in the Philippines. Sometimes we go inside Nevada Square. Almost all of my friends are under age like me. Some are 17,16,15,14,. Then they say only 18 yrs could go in! I think not.They don&#8217;t even check I.D. they just let them in.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Resty,

If the Nevadas cannot impose peace and order in their little property, how can Atty. Nevada hope to do better as mayor of a city? The contracts, if I am not mistaken, are on a yearly basis (our used to be for 5 years) so what expiration are they really talking about?

Somehow, bar owners and landlords in Baguio City think their place is hip when there is a lot of trouble there. Sad ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Resty,</p>
<p>If the Nevadas cannot impose peace and order in their little property, how can Atty. Nevada hope to do better as mayor of a city? The contracts, if I am not mistaken, are on a yearly basis (our used to be for 5 years) so what expiration are they really talking about?</p>
<p>Somehow, bar owners and landlords in Baguio City think their place is hip when there is a lot of trouble there. Sad &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: resty</title>
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		<dc:creator>resty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the fights are still going on? I recall then mayoralty candidate Atty Elmo Nevada saying they were just waiting for the lease contracts of the tenants to expire so they can get into other kinds of business that would replace the drinking joints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the fights are still going on? I recall then mayoralty candidate Atty Elmo Nevada saying they were just waiting for the lease contracts of the tenants to expire so they can get into other kinds of business that would replace the drinking joints.</p>
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