Baguio Schools Performance in Nursing Exams 2007
March 25, 2008 by lisa
Filed under business & economy
(Added March 2009: You may wish to view a more recent post on the Baguio schools performance in the Philippine Nursing Board Exams of December 2008, wherein a Baguio graduate topped the board plus a comparison of how the Baguio schools fared at that time)
When the Mayor of Baguio, whose family owns University of Baguio declared a paradigm shift from tourism to education and (added by Vice-Mayor and UB Chief of Legal Affairs Danny Farinas recently) – ta da! – commercialism, I figured to look into how well our graduates performed in the hugely popular Nursing Licensure Exams last December 2007, just to have a gauge of how valid that claim of his of “Welcome to the Educational Center of the North” was.
Here is an analysis of how well (or how badly) the schools in Baguio performed in 2007:
1. Baguio Central University
248 of 641 passed or 39%. 393 failed.
2. Pines City College
763 of 1989 passed or 38%. 1,225 failed.
3. Saint Louis University
144 of 146 passed or 99%. 2 failed.
4. STI-Baguio
The lone examinee failed or 0%
5. University of Baguio
366 of 748 passed or 49%. 382 failed.
6. University of the Cordilleras
69 of 131 passed or 53%. 62 failed.
Baguio Total Score for December 2007:
3,656 took the exam
1,590 passed
2,066 failed
43.29% passing average. WOW!
Of course some school officials were justifying their performance by looking at the national average. So then maybe we should modify the claim to “Welcome to the Average Educational Center of the North” instead. One of the schools (guess who?) asked their March 2008 graduates to take the exams in December instead of this June to ‘prepare’ them better. Come on! You prepare them from 1st year 1st semester, not at the last minute.
Those schools with such dismal performance should be reviewed by CHED and maybe their enrollment should be limited to only the amount of board passers they can handle as per the performance records. When the students do not learn, whose fault is it? And by the way, this performance is consistent. Just look at the previous results. Thus a pattern of mediocrity emerges.
Only SLU has consistently performed well. Maybe their curriculum is good. Maybe it’s because they screen their nursing students to determine who is qualified.
This profitable business, no longer a vocation, should be regulated so as not to waste the students’ time and their parents’ money.
It’s bad enough they are stuffed into tree-less campuses. But to be given piss-poor education is such a crime.
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Hehe. Agree ako diyan sa “Average”. It’s actually SLU (and BCF/UC to a certain extent) that is propping up the city’s image as a good educ center.
Dapat yung below 50% passing rate, i-close ang mga iyan. And I didn’t even know that STI now offers nursing?
When it comes to Nursing students, SLU is very strict with theirs.
There’s the CEE screening and from what I have heard, there’s a cut off every year. So, it’s very survival of the fittest.
The ‘other schools’ IMO make money out of this course rather than making professionals.
Any stats analysis on dentistry? UB (ergo, Baguio)is touted as the best in Northern Luzon. This is of course based on UB propaganda.
Lisa,
whatever happened with BGHSN? no stats with this school? oh yes, tell me it closed shop too! TG my alma mater(SLU) did well with its nursing program woohoo. aaah pre-screening a good idea. on the other hand, a lot of them just want to take the course to head abroad basta’t makapasa…pano ngay!
Hi Bill,
UC with 2 Philippine Bar topnotchers in less than 10 years, hindi chamba. But their passing average there is still low. Screening, entrance exams pa rin. A school should be judged not by the topnotchers but by the quality of education all of their graduates receive.
I have slightly higher standards — those below 75% passing, not 50%. But really I think it should be 99% or bust! Why should we waste the time and money of thousands? PCEC alone had 1,200 flunkers.
Hi Janice,
SLU, I believe has a policy of accepting 500 freshman nursing students (for the money, you know), with the express condition that only 150 will proceed towards graduation or to nursing ‘proper’ (if there’s such a thing) — the rest will have to shift to other SLU medical programs offered.
Hi UB Dental Grad,
Yup I heard that propaganda and somehow I believe it. You see the Baguio schools used to have ‘areas of specialization:’ SLU – Engineering, UB – Dentistry, UC – Criminology, STI – Computers.
Am talking about Nursing here because a lot of these Baguio schools have jumped on the bandwagon on awarding mass diplomas for nursing without having credible programs installed in the first place — just to catch the demand (and money) from those hopeful students and parents.
Hi Joe,
BGHSN? How old are you? Kidding! To make you feel better Notre Dame hospital has reopened.
Our country is so messed up we only export labor mostly now. Baguio schools, like many others in the country, are selling only false hopes. It’s killing the creativity of the Filipino people. We are better than this.
Ano ba Louisians were at 99% but no one were at the top 10. That is still mediocrity, we are better than that. Do not stop sa “pwede na”, excel dapat. -OT ba?-
Exactly right, Dan! We are better than THAT.
The Filipino is ranked one of the happiest people in the world — because we been made, through generations, to keep our expectations low. We are BETTER than that.
Given the right push, we perform well. Given the right motivations, we excel. We ARE better than that.
Go Baguio!
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As a tourist destination, we were tops. As an educational center we are mediocre. What does that say to you, Mr. Mayor? We expect much, much more from your leadership — fix your school first, so we know you are capable of fixing Baguio.
Speaking of Notre Dame(yun yung sa tabi ng Lab diba?) I’ve heard of a rumor that they denied UB’s proposal to fund the rest of the construction but got rejected. Kaya up to now, walang hospital ang UB.
Here comes out the bahala na/puede na mentality of many Filipinos. No a ‘regressing one’. Parang ang baba ng pangarap ng marami sa atin.
I am a college student and this mentality is so so so prevalent. It doesn’t matter the major.
erratum: No wonder our country is a regressing one.
Hi Janice,
My sources tell me the new building University of Baguio has temporarily stopped constructing is encroaching upon Notre Dame property by two whole meters.
If your rumor were true, why would anyone expect that Notre Dame, which is an institution in Baguio, simply give UB their business in exchange for the latter finishing up the former’s building?
Has UB even offered to buy that business?
I think that UB, to be credible as a medical school or a school with medical courses, should first put up its own hospital, wouldn’t you agree?
please do not spread rumors. i am affiliated with notre myself and a friend of the bautistas but i stay away from the UB-Notre partnership.
leave it to the notre dame sisters and the bautistas to talk about that partnership. i would like to think that both parties are deciding on what is the best arrangement if at all they will reach an agreement. bottom line – develop notre and UB nursing as tops in their fields.
Ron, while we respect your personal views, it is important that all folks are aware of what’s going on in our city ALL the time.
Because education or health care, while profitable private businesses these days, are matters of public interest.
It is in not questioning, analyzing or knowing that the Filipino has become apathetic. Look where our city is now, where our country is now..
hi lisa,
did you know that pines colleges charges 2000 pesos per graduating student? Multiply that by 3000+nursing grads and the other disciplines, say another 3000 graduating studes=6000 x 2000= 12Million PESOS!!!&*(%$#>^*) for what fees? para sa graduation march sa convention center? then they charge another 450 pesos for the toga and gown ba yon? that’s another 2.7M!!! Easily. never mind if they have no passers eh. yuckky talaga! how can these people ever sleep?
oh dear Ann Marie,
what a racket PCEC has going on! I’m sure it does not cost the Concepcions that much to mount a graduation ceremony!
i am hoping that folks will rethink sending their children to study in Baguio — i really think they’re better off where they are, plus it will cost them much less for board, lodging, allowance and tuition.
with these passing rates, how can Baguio claim the schools are prestigious?
Of course, the schools are Prestigious.
UC has the highest salaried professor in the Philippines. Only 1 of the 7 ProfessorEmeritus so far.
UB has owners coming from state universities.
PCEC has highly paid doctors in their school as faculty.
And a lot more prestigious titles and awards (di ko lang maalala lahat kasi sobrang heavy!)
Ang mga tanong lang:
(1) Gusto ba talaga ng mga estudyante yang pinag-aaralan nila? O pinipilit ng parents?
(In fairness, mag-nu-nursing dapat ang mga anak ko, para makaalis ng bansa. How else?)
(2) Lahat tayo gustong kumita ng pera. So, sacrifice lahat for the greater people — with deeper pockets. Kasi nga, may extra pa silang kailangang punuin. Tayo, may oras din balang araw… Value natin ang pera, game! Magmumukhang pera din tayo!
(3) Di ba, when “There’s a will, there’s a way?” Ano ba yung ilang ulit kumuha ang anak ko ng board exam… eh, baka may ma-network na nagbebenta ng passing mark, chance na niya yon pumasa… Or leakages. Hello???
Ano ba ang halaga ng isang tao at/o iskuwelahan? Diploma? Passing rate?
Hi Lola with a High Kick,
1. Merong mga mag-aaral na napipilitan lang. Kasi ang attitude ng mga Asiano ay ang gumawa ng maraming anak upang and mga ito ang makapagpaahon sa kahirapan ng kanilang pamilya.
2. Magtatayo na rin ba tayo ng paaralan na ang tanging layunin ay ang maningil ng tuition — di bale nalang kung pumasa o hindi sa board exams ang mga mag-aaral?
3. Nga naman, sa Baguio pa nanggaling ang leakage no? Tuloy, damay ang lahat na kumuha ng nursing board exams nung panahon na iyon. Dapat i-revoke yung business permit nung nursing review center na iyon!
Lisa,
1. Mali ba ang attitude ng Asiano? Ano ang tama? Eh, ayaw ko namang tawagin lang ako ng anak ko ng “Psst, Lola!”
2. Di ba, sa mga Indian, may na-iindian, at may Indian? Depende sa tao yun. Vicious (?) cycle kaya eto, or karma?
3. Paano ipapa-revoke ang mga permit?
Salamat sa sagot!
I was born in Baguio and I am proud to be a tubong City High (Science) and of course a Louisian Nursing graduate. Being a graduate of SLU, I find myself to disagree that the education in Baguio City is just but average. Frankly I am caught in between.
I think SLU is prestigious enough that it has consistently been on the top 5 of schools in the Country passing the Nursing Board. If I remember it right, our batch was pressured to have a 100% passing rate because it would be the 3rd year that we haven’t had any failures. How did they accomplish this? Strict screening. They accept 500 students for first year and from that only 250 students will be accepted into 2nd yr. They don’t care if you have passed all the subjects required as long as you are #251- you are in the waiting list. Why do they do this? It was explained to us that from experience, they have found that only those who are physically, mentally, spiritually and emotionally fit to be good nurses will make it through graduation and that more than half of the original 500 will not make it anyway. Our batch started with 450 students and only over 170 graduated. They are not in the business of mass producing nurses, but rather their dedication is to educate and train student nurses to be good. For those who were forced into nursing, studying in SLU would be a struggle because the instructors have a way of breaking those who really are not into nursing. I had a few friends who finally understood that nursing is not for them as early as 2nd year ( that is when we start clinical rotations and actual patient care). I remember my last month in nursing school. The instructors we were so afraid of and called terror, were not as terrifying after all and their attitude did a turnabout and they started treating the graduating students as their comrades in the field of nursing. I remember one instructor telling me, “Don’t be shy now, it is okay, you are a nurse now, you are one of us.” If any school can make you feel this way, then i think they have done their job in giving a good education. The education I received there did not only come from the books. Do yo know that every clinical rotation we have, we are not only graded on the work we do but there is that 30% on the grading paper that says attitude? And, mind you, a student can fail from attitude alone. Now if there is more prestigious than that, I don’t know. oops.. and I think they have never expanded the number of student that they accept each year, it is still 500 students for first year and then 50% cut off. They have not joined the bandwagon of becoming a nursing school business. oops one more note.. they have the lowest tuition fee compared with any other nursing schools in Baguio and Manila.
Now on the other side, the other nursing schools. I do agree on closing down the Nursing schools that are substandard. Yes close down those who are 75% or lower. Why be strict about it?? We are talking about Nurses whose job is to make sure you get good medical care. They are not mere assistants of doctors, but rather they work with the doctor to make you get well. oh but wait… I do know that some of my colleagues are teaching in UC. Hey maybe there is hope. Maybe they can exemplify the teachings we received to the future nurses.
Why am I so passionate about this topic?? It is because, I now work as a nurse here in USA and I had the chance of getting to know some nurses who were educated in the “Nursing school business”. I find it frustrating at times to see them struggle to take on the nursing role here in US. If i find out that they have not been trained in some things that they should already be a master of, it makes me sad to think that the quality of nursing education in our country is deteriorating. Thanks to the mushrooming of “Nursing school businesses”. It eventually reflects on us being Filipinos in the end. The days when Filipino nurses are being regaled to be very good is slowly dying. Nursing is so different here in terms of the responsibilities you are expected to deliver and nurses here take on an active role in patient care.
I’m sorry this message is long. But I hope nakatulong ng konti.
“The days when Filipino nurses are being regaled to be very good is slowly dying.”
Hi May,
And thank you so much for your insights. (Don’t worry about long comments — as most posts and comments here are pretty extensive)
I agree that it is important to concentrate on excellence. And this can really only be achieved in schools by screening and setting the highest standards for your profession.
Less than that, the schools become diploma mills. PCEC owns a hospital but it seems it cannot get a good passing average — 38%?! When I read the number of examinees (1989) I thought it was referring to a YEAR, not persons!
The rest, including UB, do not have hospitals and rely on practice nursing in BGH, and Cordillera communities where there are no hospitals either, among others.
Honestly, what the results prove is that it is the owners’ GREED that fuels the nursing programs in Baguio, and not as a vocation, nor a desire to help in the building of a nation.
The victims? The youth, the patients, the Philippines.
Sad, no?
Kudos to you May!
One of the best school of nursing is PINES CITY COLLEGES, why? first it has own based hospital, second it has a facilities for nursing program like in Manila, third the board exam percentage in college of nursing is still compiting even in other private school of nursing in Northern Luzon and in Manila. Iam a transferee from other University to PCC because of my dropped subject and incomplete subjects but when I was in PCC they develop me as a nurse with DIGNITY AND RESPECT IN LIFE at the end I was afraid to take my NLE because I implanted to my mind that Iam a kickout student and how can I pass the board exam. But through PCC I learned and now Im here with my License and practising my profession as NURSE with the help of GOD… I was really thankfull to GOD because he molded me as an RN through PINES CITY COLLEGES.
Congratulations Pines. I guess you were one of the lucky 38% who passed. I believe that no university without its own hospital should even offer a nursing program because the students will not be able to get good practical experience without it.
However, I do believe that schools with dismal board performance should LIMIT their enrollees to the number they can handle. Otherwise, a whopping 62% will fail in the exams, and the time, money and efforts of the students will be wasted on something they are not cut out for.
There are ways of narrowing these numbers down based on admissions exams, past grades, even personal recommendations from past professors. But to try to accommodate all those with tuition money does a disservice to those who actually are more qualified to become nurses by giving them less time and attention.
Lastly, you are oh so right about God. I’m glad you realize how much He loves us.
paggraduate ka sa SLU, mas may confidence kang pumasa sa board exam..
Oo nga naman, Alen! Just look at the SLU passing average – 99%! Ganyan din dapat yung ibang paaralan sa Baguio, di ba?
SLU isnt as great as you thought it is. Or any of the Philippine Schools for that matter.
I am an SLU Nursing Graduate and now thru hard work, have successfully practiced nursing here in North Carolina, USA.
First of all , i think it is a disservice for the Nursing Schools to accept thousands of nursing students at the first year of the Nursing Program and then to turn around and accept half of them halfway into the program and then graduate only a fraction of them.
A school’s performance ( or excellence) should be based on a comparison of their admissions to their number of succeessful RN’s four years later (i.e. passing the nursing board)
I beleive that these schools have the ethical responsibility to first of all Teach and Train, graduate, and make sure that these students pass and become RNs.
Dont admit 1000 students on the first year and then turn away 75% a year later. What options does these give the 750 students that werent accepted? They turn to substandard schools and just propagates the “mushrooming ” of these schools.
If you get accepted that first year , the school must make sure that you pass and become a RN 4 years later. You paid for it, and hell, and the school owes you for that.
And by the way , for all that education , you can one day find yourself wiping ass for $30/hr. in a foreign country.
Hmm…. what a dream profession…
SLU a Christian Institution accepting many student in the first year of course mas madaning pera ang kukunin. Tapos screening nanaman kawawa ang mga nagbayad na hindi kayang itrain ng SLU… Education is not for all????
OO nga naman SLU top nursing schoolkaya lang wala man lang nagtop 10… basta ako mag aaral lang dito sa SLU ng nursing…
Nursey Nurse,
Why would you post a heading such as this,” SLU isnt as great as you thought it is. Or any of the Philippine Schools for that matter.” What did you mean? I got lost in your narrative… The mere fact that you are where you are right now is because of your education. Kahit naman sino also does hard work. It just irked me, I’m sorry, to discredit where you came from when we’re talking about Nursing commercialism here.
Anyways, let me snuff myself out of your comment. No comment is wrong, that is your opinion. Just so you would know, I finished AB Comm at SLU. I’m now a US Citizen based on Guam but after some years of being in a corporate environment, I am going back to school this fall to take up NURSING in a uni here. Of course, it’s also for practical reason but my ultimate goal is to work part time as a nurse and get compensated a little bit higher than what I get right now but for a lesser time – to take care of my kids.
God bless you.
Hi Nursey Nurse, Kathy and Chamorrita!
Thanks for your comments and I hope this post has enlightened and invigorated folks somehow, and helped you and others make the right choice for your future.
By the way, there are other nursing schools in the Philippines. Of course the good ones are those schools that run their own hospitals. After all, a huge part of the learning is in the practicals.
Many students I know are worried that all that required community work does not always prepare one well for the board exams.
its not by the percentage of school we are reffering too, but we shoul reffer to the ability of individual graduates to apply what they gaine in thier school. marami nga dyan boar passer ng slu at uc na tambay sa kalsada eh.
i have nothing to say just only this PINES CITY COLLEGE school of nursing is the OLDEST private school of nursing in CAR region which is cannot be broken…
763 registered nurses, did other college of nursing experienced that? Wow… congrats to all colleges and universities in the Philippines as a leading producer of RN in the world and one of those is Pines City College of Nursing.
BARRY HOPE BUAGING CAMPANER 87.20% of 2006 plus DIVINA ZUERTE PASETES DIOMAMPO 86% of 2007 equals PINES CITY COLLEGES’ PROUD
Hi Moore,
The percentages matter in terms of admissions. High percentage of failures means a waste of time and money for the students and the parents. The collection of tuition fees must not be the reason a school exists.
But I agree with you that individual performance is most important. And how can they give the proper supervision if there are more students than the schools can handle?
Hi Barry/lowlanders,
We are not dissing Pine City college graduates, just calling everyone’s attention to the school’s high rate of failure, a disservice to those who have gambled their futures on the education the school can give them. If Pines can make 700 students pass, then maybe it accept only 700 students into their program per year. I can imagine the hospital is not large enough to accommodate all the students, too.
“Dont admit 1000 students on the first year and then turn away 75% a year later. What options does these give the 750 students that werent accepted? They turn to substandard schools and just propagates the “mushrooming ” of these schools.” by Nursey Nurse
This is food for thought. Is this the standard in other schools here and abroad?
Resty,
Reeks of greed, doesn’t it? The rest they want to shift to other courses within their school like med tech, because maybe they’re having a hard time getting applicants for courses other than nursing.
They should just have entrance exams and PRE-SCREEN the 250. Or maybe, like in the quota courses in UP and Ateneo, they accept about 20% more and tell them that they will weed out the bottom performers.
And you’re right, they lure them to Baguio and let them loose on the city to fend for themselves, whether in their original school or in the others that are actually PROUD they don’t have entrance exams.
One of the scions of these schools said that their grandpa wanted education for all — but there must be standards and limits set. But their grandfather did not over-enroll — most times the students have registered and there are not available classrooms and teachers! Wow!
i love PINES CITY COLLEGE, this institution has an ability to strengthen the weak foundation of a kickout students in other institution. This is the center of education of most shifter, kickout,freshmen,transferee and newly graduate from high shool the evidence is the huge population of the institution. Is the other college of nursing has an ability TO DO THAT THINGS?,JUST ONLY PINES CITY COLLEGE… YOUR DREAM WILL NOT STOP BECAUSE OF WEAKNESS OF OTHER INSTITUTION BUT YOUR FUTURE WILL BLOOM AT PINES CITY COLLEGE
1,989 nurses 763 registered nurses 1,225 BSN holder and AHSE. 763 RNs have an oppurtunity to be hired as staff nurses in the Philippines and abroad. 1,225 nurses have an oppurtunity to be hired as assisstant nurses in abroad. 763 RNs have a chance to take CGFNS EXAM and NCLEX RN. 1,225 nurses have a chance to take NCLEX RN.1,989 PINESERs of Dec of 2007 have a great future…
pinescitycolleges traces its humble beginning to the inauguration of its hospital pines city doctors’ hospital, in 1965. four years later, the school of nursing opened its doors to a first batch of 42 students. the school was the pioneer private school of nursing in northern luzon. over the years, the PINES CITY DOCTORS’ HOSPITAL SCHOOL OF NURSING had persistently produced highly competent and motivated nurses.
it does not depend to which school u graduated from..wats important is you can work as a nurse anywhere like me…im not a louisian but i am a nurse here abroad…some of my lousian friends have mismatched work….u can carry d name of ur scul but they cannot carry you to where u will work in d future…sah???????????
hay…its so hard to comment …but it is true if each schools must screen their students like SLU ….coz our parents spend a lot of money….
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Stands high you PCC our school so dear
Our alma mater, Pines City Colleges
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THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION CANNOT BE DETERMINED THRU SCREENING STUDENTS.. THE TRUE QUALITY OF EDUCATION IS SEEN ON HOW THE TEACHERS OF A CERTAIN SCHOOL TEACH THEIR STUDENTS (NO MATTER HOW MANY THEY ARE) TO BE WELL VERSE.. SOME SCHOOLS HERE IN BAGUIO DO TAUGH SCREENINGS AND YET THEY CANNOT OBTAIN 100.00% PASSING PERCENTAGE IN LICENSURE EXAM.. WHAT IF THEY DO NOT SCREEN THEIR STUDENTS? THE SAME CASE FROM OTHER SCHOOLS WHICH DO NOT DO SCREENING.. LET ME REVERSE THE SITUATION, WHAT IF THE UNIVERSITY OF BAGUIO DOES SCREENINGS ALSO? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN THE NURSE LICENSURE EXAMINATION TAKEN DECEMBER 2007,
University of Baguio
366 of 748 passed or 49%. 382 failed.
WHAT IF THEY SCREENED THEIR STUDENTS TO TAKE THE BOARD EXAM? I’M SURE 100.00% PASSING RATE! SABIHIN NALANG NATIN NA 300 EXAMINEES ANG IN-ALLOWED NILA NA MAG-TAKE, SIGURADO UNG 300 NA UN PASADO LAHAT KUNG NAG-SCREEN DIN SILA.
GANUN LANG KA-SIMPLE UN.
ALL SCHOOLS HERE IN BAGUIO CITY ARE GOOD.
WALA SA SCHOOL YAN, NASA ATTITUDE LANG NG ESTUDYANTE KUNG PAANO SYA MAGREVIEW..
KAPAG ANG SCHOOL KASE AY NAG-SCREEN, PARANG HINDI BA KAYA TURUAN ANG MGA ESTUDYANTE NA MAHINA TALAGA.. ANG KAWAWA NAMAN ANG MGA SCHOOLS NA OPEN DOORS KUNG SAAN PUMUPUNTA UNG MGA ESTUDYANTE NA MGA UN..
Hi Wilton,
Obviously, the schools cannot handle teaching that many students — they failed in raising the learning and competency levels of more than half of their enrollees.
Screening (entrance exams) determines who is SUITED for that course. The rest will have to take something that is more suited to their abilities.
It is an absured situation to waste half a decade of somebody’s time and money. That’s why UP, Ateneo and even La Salle produce superb graduates.
screening is good if they will set it up into prioritization, for example those who passed or achieved the passing score for screening they will be the priority and those who failed they will be the nxt priority… i want to emphasized the tradition of other school that they will give priority to those student who hve big chance to passed NLE for june and second priority those who hve little chance to passed their exam and they will be the december examinees.
sabi nga ni wilton BAKA HINDI LNG NILA KAYANG TURUAN ANG MGA MAHIHINANG STUDENT…
if they will hve screening prioritization dun lng malalaman kun kaya talaga ng isang school turuan ang lahat ng klaseng student matalino man o mahina…
to wilton,
i agree with you that UB has a capability to have 100 percent in NLE if they have screening.
to all PINES lovers i salute with all of you having a great loyalty with your alma mater.
to SLU congratiolations for being number one school of nursing in baguio
to BCU and STI College try your best to have 50 percent in NLE this nov.
to UC and Easter College thats good performance
to UB try in your college of nursing to have a screening program and let see.
to PINES CITY COLLEGES try to bring back your good name like before, i know you can just help those retakers to enhance their nursing foundation.
to Dean LACANRIA of SLU, as far as i know you are the President of DEAN in the CAR pls help those schools have low ratings in NLE.
to Dean BAWAYAN of PINES, the college is in the middle of the problem pls move and think about how to end this problem and begin the new chapter of the college as one of the leading school of nursing in north like before.
to all who will take NLE on November
*****PRAY
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Baguio City has a great nursing school
SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY – Top performing school
PINES CITY COLLEGES – the oldest private sch of nursing in northern luzon
UNIVERSITY of the CORDILLERAS – nice NLE performance
BAGUIO CENTRAL UNIVERSITY – home of topnotchers
EASTER COLLEGE – consistent high NLE ratings
greetings!ido not know how i come to this passage,it caught my interest bec.my daughter is studying in baguio central uni.even do i do not have the knowledge to run the computer,my husbands employer allowed me to practice and i pray that both teachers do their bes to guide our children for their future.as for me single parent come abrod to sacrifice that i may reap and our chidren may do same that they may reap their efforts…may both do their parts that will be praise…thanks..mor power God bless…
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or send me a text message, 0906-558-3418 or 09232260926.
thanks a lot.
I am a Lousian and I just would like to comment to those people who says that SLU is number 1 but failed to produce top notchers.
Producing top notchers in the NLE is not enough to make your school look beautiful. It is still vital to have a high passing rate for us to know if the academic standards, faculty training, student skills and school facilities are appropriate in maintaining high quality nursing education.
It is true that we screen students from 1,500 for the first years to 500 before entering third year. This screening process is not solely based on the performance of the person in the academe, but instead it includes a certain percentage of ATTITUDE.
Intelligence, Skill and attitude makes an efficient Louisian Nurse
Thanks!
Hi Madame Fely,
How nice of you to drop by. I can imagine all the sacrifices you have made for your children. Thank God for you. And I hope you child does well… Good luck to your family.
Hi Michael,
I know Danny Imson, let me ask if thery are related… Anyway, maybe someone who knows him will read this and relay your message.
Hi SLU con,
You’re right about the attributes that make a good nurse, not just a Louisian nurse. But I do not agree with the business side of the screening process, which I find to be an indecent number — a pre-determined fall out of 1,000 is just plain greedy, in my opinion.
Just so we know, who determines the right attitudes? Do you have grades in conduct? How does SLU grade attitude?
I’m a graduate of the prestigious BGHSN(Old school…yes). I was an average student but proud to have survived, lucky to have been considered among the fittest. The total experience of studying & training in BGH cannot be surmounted to this day. To my co alumni who are in the teaching profession, I strongly encourage you to bequeath whatever knowledge & wisdom you have gained. Our schools are in dire need of good teachers. To our nursing students, a piece of advice………you must have a strong will & determination to become a nurse, think of your parents who are willing to break their backs to help you hurdle this course. Respect your teachers, listen to them, after all they are who you need to get through the door of your nursing career. Money talks so they say, but think about what can happen when you are on the floor/unit and about to make a vital nursing judgement on your own…that is priceless! That can make or break you.
With due respect to all other nursing schools, pardon me for being a loyalist, but I owe my successful nursing career to my beloved BGHSN. Thank you!!!!!
stop ntin ang pataasan kung anu ang nakayanan ng school ntin yun na yun kun anu ang nakayanan mu para iangat ang natutunan mu na binigay ng school mu yun na yun… it is our choice dude kun san ka magaaral, pinili ko ang pines at nagaral ako ng mabuti ngayun RN ako. kung anu ako ngayun yun din ang pines city colleges. masusukat mu kung anu ang isang school sa mga taong nahawakan nila kaya kun anu ka ngayun pinapakita nyo lang kung ganu kagaling ang school nyo… LAHAT MAGALING!
Wow Carol!
Wonderful thoughts! For the survival of our country rests on the echoing of what makes an excellent Filipino to the generations that come after us.
It would be a great asset to the Philippines if BGHSN continued its great traditions of training topnotch nursing professionals.
Pccians,
I deleted your 4 other spammy comments, and please do not insult the author and other visitors of this blog by sending useless “pluggings.” But this one I retained because it is worth responding to.
If you are a reflection of the graduates of your school, then let the others judge. If you are happy with mediocrity then go ahead. By having this “puede na” attitude you are not doing justice to your country, your parents and yourself (in that order).
FYI, HINDI LAHAT MAGALING!
Hi Lisa
I appreciate that you’ve commented to my post. I understand that you see the pre-determined fall out of 1,000 as greediness, that’s your opinion. But for my school’s side, it is not greediness, they just want to produce qualified nurses in the future.
How do they compute for our attitude? Well, there is this thing called IR or the incident report. Along with this, a student can only acquire this letter if he/she have done something wrong (eg. unexcused absences, insubordination, cheating, etc) or misconducts. Not only from the conduct, they also get demerits from our community immersions and other activities (eg. incomplete paraphernalia, indecent use of uniform).
Each violation or misconducts have a corresponding point which will then be subtracted from a total score of 40. A student may have a negative score here depending on the number and the severity of the violations. They will now get the 15 percent of the 40 points and this will serve as the 15% in the total grade. The other 85 % comes from the academic standings from 1st year until 2nd semester of 2nd year.
That’s how they screen us, I just don’t know how they screen the first years now since they have a new curriculum.
Well anyway, I hope you have understood what i have discussed.
Im so sorry for plogging some blog that brought some pain to you. It is not my intention to insult the author of this page. I hope that my apology will be appreciated. Thank you.
Hi again SLU con!
Thank you so much for esplaining the IRs. I did have a niece who was kicked out after two sems for cutting classes, and I so agreed with SLU there.
I actually started writing a whole article on the “fallout” as you call it, having entered UP Diliman via a quota course (Industrial Engineering) and having studied at UP Law where less than 200 are accepted per year and only about 2/3 graduate.
But I haven’t published that pending more research, to be fair to SLU.
You see, a PREDETERMINED number, even if it is based on past trends, is simply not fair. There should be a SET STANDARD, like a particular weighted average to aspire for, not a ranking of 500 and up. Meaning one should “make the grade” not “claw their way to the top.” In other words, actual performance, not the percentile where 1000 will SURELY not be accepted into the junior year.
So in UP LAW they will not say “200 of you enter but only 140 will graduate.” It’s more like “200 of you enter and all of you who have this minimum average grade (which is raised per year)” will enter each level and then those who reach the fourth year, and complete all the requirements (subjects, back subjects, externship program) will graduate. And if all 200 happen perform well then 200 will graduate.
It’s not like they recruit 600 with the condition that only 200 will graduate, and on the third year 400 will get kicked out for sure. And UP produces great lawyers.
Folks consider it greed because SLU is allegedly taking advantage of the popularity of the nursing program as a means to recruit for less popular medical courses. But I have said enough, will try to complete the article when I get back up to Baguio.
Thanks again for dropping by.
Hello Pccians,
You did not plug other sites, you just kept submitting comments that went rahrahrah for your school, which is does not add value to this discussion. If you have actual external references to your school’s superiority, excellence or performance, feel free to link them up here.
I am currently a nsg student of PCC. It is my 2nd course. I took my 1st in SLU. It is really devastating to know that PCC before was the best in producing RNs. Today, they are the last. And I agree that they do not set standards. They just accept you period. But I am thankful that they accepted 2nd coursers like me.
All I am asking is that the CIs should teach what the students should learn. As per experience, the CIs rely on their old, unupdated notes, even discussing surveys which were dated 19kopong-kopong. They do not have multi-media to allow dynamic and efficient learning. They do not have the proper and functioning gadgets in nursing practice. They allow students to defy their rules like wearing jewelries, untied hair, wearing colored toppers, wearing unprescribed footwear, polished nails, heavy makeup, piercings, etc…
To PCC, thank you for giving us a chance to take up nursing, BUT please give us also the chance to become RNs.
To PCC nursing students, do not rely on your CIs, we should read, read, and read. If we want to become RN first shot, we should help ourselves. PCC wants only our money, they do not care if we become RNs or RN hopefuls.
sa lahat ng mga student,
dating louisian ako pero ngayun isa na akong pccian. natanggal ako noon dahil hindi ako nakapasa sa standard ng SLU pero sa Pines City College nabigyan ako ng chance. d2 sa sinasabing substandard school naging RN ako. one take sa board at ngayun CI ng SLU. san kapa thats PINES CITY COLLEGE my ALMA matter dear that kept me on top and brought me back where I belong. thank you Pines City College …
ILOVE SLU.
you are TOTALLY RIGHT BILL. dapat lang!
proud to be PCCIANS
excuse me. pwede magtanong?
pwede k bng magshift into other medical or science-related courses kapag nascreen out ka sa SLU college of nursing??
Hi Yhords,
Sa alam ko, puede, kaya nga sila tumatanggap ng extra 1000 para maka-recruit sa ibang kurso, kasi ang pinaka-’mabenta nga ngayon ay ‘nursing’ at kakaunti ang pumapansin sa iba katulad ng ‘med tech.’
To all,
How funny, no? 1000 will not be ’suitable’ for nursing but suitable for physical therapy…
It does not matter from what school you came from. That only exist dyan sa atin. Dahil pagpunta nyo sa ibang bansa, performance ang tinitignan nila.
May mga naka trabaho ako that came from very good schools like UP, SLu etc and even formerly doctors, and even two of them were top notchers sa board, they don’t know what they are doing…some are by the book..always stick to what the book says, but it is not the case always, you have to have a critical thinking to manage patient..
But what I can say though is that or challenge to new and up coming nurses, a lot of nurses from philippines are supervisors, charge nurses and chief nursing officers…so keep that record…and stop comparing schools
Hi Bob,
You are right, that success is an individual effort, and so there’s really no need to have any rivalry between schools.
However, the point of this article (although the comments have branched out in various directions already) is the obligation of the schools to deliver quality education, and not be mere diploma mills, for what is at stake is the future of the children.
They and their parents deserve a better deal than they are getting now, else they will not even be allowed to work in the first place, where they can really excel and do a lot of good for their fellowmen.
Merry Christmas to all… Ubians,louisians,centralians,cordillerans and of course my own PCCIANS PINESERS PINESIANS…
Im an SLU CON graduate. During my fellowship program in one hospital here in Baguio, a co-fellow once told me that CIs of a university in baguio are under the “evaluation power” of their students. What I mean is, if students don’t “like” their CI, they can easily make a way to get their poor CI out of the college. In relation to this, I actually witnessed an incident in the OR where student boldy defies her CI’s order.This comment does not intend to create an issue.Thank you!
Thanks, Nars, for sharing. I agree that both supervisors and trainees should be able to evaluate each other, to provide feedback, to be able to work and learn better. But there should be standards set, and evaluation of the CI by superiors based on observations of superiors, too, not just the opinions of those the CI supervises. It’s all about working to improve the profession, no “power tripping” should be involved, because the profession should care more about the patients not personal promotion.
hi NARS, am a student.. well… have u heard the side of the student body? i mean… u have to weight both parties right? am just curious….
As I have noticed… especially if a teacher graduated from a top nursing school… sometimes…. or most of time… they do this thing… and I think lisa mentioned it… “Powertripping” and it’s so unprofessional… I hope teacher’s would also get the chance to read… The Uneducation of the Filipino Youth by Jorge Bocobo… let’s set aside tradition… and learn to be more critical in thinking… looking at both sides… student follow what they see in their teachers… very much!
I just browsed this site…it’s good that everyone has the chance to speak out……bout experience and observations……hope that every detail from the different comments and others should have been thought and fairly equated….but i do love this portal…..god bless
probably we could post also the different courses where the baguio schools are performing well…….like teacher education,criminology, accountancy, dentistry and others to showcase and prove also that we are not only inclined to a specific field of endeavor….thanks and regards….
thank you Lisa for creating a site like this and thanks to all those who speaks their mind.as a nursing undergraduate (3rd yr)(sayang) what i can say is that most of the CIs (fresh graduate or very young) I’ve been under too or those I met around the campuses are not very serious about their profession and are mayabang. For how could they tell a student who is asking some questions in time of his actual hospital duty “basa em a gamin dyay notes mo kala han mo met amu bahala ka nu matay dyay pasyentem ah”. The result the student ask a fellow student on duty. Some CIs are even on duty (7 to 3) at the same hospital where her students are on duty too (double income) so the CI can’t be actually watching her students 100%. Some are even secretly accepting payment for giving a passing grade.And some are even not fair in giving grades because they passed their student absentee friend.
NOTE:some of the nursing CIs of UB and BCF Nursing are from BCU.
Lisa,i think nursing course is becoming a big money making business not a profesion anymore. What do you think? I was not able to finish my studies because that time i can’t really afford what the school is asking, a full 45k for a duty in manila.easy way to earn and someday be able to continue with my studies is to become an OCW.
Hi Ellen,
I am sorry to hear that it has become too expensive for you. The reason I am so concerned about the students welfare is because my mom sent four of us two school by herself. She made so many personal sacrifices to make sure we all finished on time.
Life was simpler then but education has always been relatively expensive, especially medical courses. It’s not just the tuition, it’s all the extras.
45k for duty in Manila? Is that how it is now? You have to pay that much to get practical training? Does your nursing school not have a hospital?
Im proud to be a graduate of BCU…….(Home Of TopNotcher)
I love BCU
The best
I found it very interesting, informative and educational as well reading the comments posted on this blog. Sometimes, people boost of their alma matter’s standing and show how loyal they are to their respective schools. Its natural to at least defend the institution where you came from after all it is where you completed your degree, BSN for that matter. Here, in Middle East I came accross with so many nurses and they came from different institution in the Philippines. However, one observation i noticed some nurses are working in clinics whrere salary is lesser compared to, if they are in specialist hospitals and the main reason is they can’t pass government exams given by the respective health agency as in UAE. So, the bottom line is they will be forced to accept jobs with lesser pay. To get away with this scenario, study in an institution where they have facilities after all a big chunk of the charges are included in this item. select a school who have competent instructors, a good nursing program so that in the future, whether state board or cgfns or moh exams will be taken you will be confident that percentage of passing is high and stay away with “bahala na attitude” a mediocre mentality that pinoys have to overcome. Also, help your self by excelling in whatever you do after all it is a preparation for your selected vocation that will surely lead you to a better life. Furthermore, remember your love one’s who sent you to school, who did their best and did not complain as to how much they’ve spent for you, to thank them the best way you can as an appreciation of the hardships they too endured while you are still studying. Make them proud and never put them in vain.
My wife is a nurse working here in Middle East (with me) and I know how she felt when some kababayans were not lucky enough to work as a nurse when indeed they are supposed to be working as one. This is where school should have imparted the necessary informations and prepare each student theoritically, mentally and clinically of what has to be acquired to be used in scenario such as exams and ect.
Lastly, I thank my alma matter Saint Louis University where I took my (Engineering) degree. Still appreciate, the inclusion of SLU as one of the best in nursing in terms of passing percentage and eng’g as well. May the tradition of excellence continue for SLU and may the aspiring nurses rewarded with good job in the phil. and overseas. God bless and more power to all. Thanks.
Hi Mar,
“select a school who have competent instructors, a good nursing program so that in the future, whether state board or cgfns or moh exams will be taken you will be confident that percentage of passing is high and stay away with “bahala na attitude” a mediocre mentality that pinoys have to overcome.”
I so agree.
In my opinion SLU is the only Baguio school that offers a quality nursing program. With the rest, they seem to be in it for the money and leave it up to the individual to survive all the hurdles.
Plus the others, except UP of course, have awful building complexes and no campus to speak of so the kids spill out into the streets. The enrollment goes unchecked and unregulated and unabated. It’s sad and scary, I had a child, only SLU or UP would do.
Of course everyone loves his or her alma mater. But that is not the true gauge of a university’s excellence. The free market and the work place judges us, and these kids studying here are clueless still, of course, having known nothing of the world except the fun of studying (which they already think is hard work — hahaha).
Yup, harsh words from me, but the schools have to set good standards here. Lest they want to be called diploma mills.
it was fun reading all thoughts, i wish you can still have space to absorb mine. When 1 gets old – you will look back and asses yourself and most often (if you are true to yourself) you blame past of your present. More often you blame everyone/everything except yourself. Being older than most of you – i guess i have the convincing right to say that most of THOSE times – IT WAS OUR FAULT. The schools may be a factor but NOT the main factor — IT IS YOU – BEING A STUDENT, A NURSE, A PERSON striving to be the best .. or person you want to be … the problem is that most often also, we fall short, but 1 thing nice is we always get another chance with life … as we still breath, so be thankful that life still embraces us.
Accept where things are not right and start from there. To be more specific … if you think that your school is lacking in what it teaches then study more .. read more notes from other schools notes from your connections or maybe from the INTERNET which is a VAST SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE… there is nothing wrong with this attitude but all for your own good.
1 thing that many of us has to understand is that – we live thru strategies. How you live your life is your stratedy as compared to me and others. Though a great strategy is usually measured by its outcome.
Each school has their own strategy based on their goals ….. not to be biased with SLU – but their strategy to have a high passing rate in the board is (maybe) accepting 1500 students ( after a convincing entrance ) then with the other screening procedures they are simply trimmed to a few. Wether you like it or not — this is their strategy and looking at it they have achieved their goals.
Many of you would find it unfair but that is it – i dont like to end this message negatively that is why i say …… to the students – STUDY HARD ALREADY WHILE YOUR PARENTS STILL CARE THAT YOU GET EDUCATED.
GOOD LUCK TO LIFE
… MAKE A LIFE
It’s good to post another comment here after a very long time.
Hi Lisa,
I understand your point regarding SLU’s predetermined number of passers but not on the predetermined grade for you to pass.
I won’t contradict you on that, because you do have a point. I do accept that flaw here in our school with regards to that matter.
I just would like to update you regarding our Quota number. The next batch (batch 2011, currently 2nd years now) and the following years would have a quota of 800 instead of 500, they’ve increased it during the last orientation.
I am enjoying reading the comments here, at least we learn to think in a wider perspective.
Hi P3,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I know quite a few students who made it and a lot more who did not in the last Philippine nursing exams, and there was one common thread running across — those who took their course seriously from day 1 passed and those who had fun, failed. It was that simple.
Of course some schools FORCE their students to study (as they should) and it’s funny how lesser universities allowed students to pass who just partied their way through nursing. I think there’s something wrong there. Maybe the poor performing schools should go less after the tuition money and actually fail the students who perform badly in their classes, and raise their standards.
Hi SLU con,
Good to know SLU is raising the quota to 800, so now only 700 instead of 1000 will be forced to shift courses. Maybe they should have that quota during freshman year instead though, like top Philippine schools UP and Ateneo for their popular courses.
funny naman ang iba dto,kc ibang schools, they are willing to mold students abilities, unlike SLU they don’t accept unmolded students(kumbaga tamad sila na turuan ang mahihina)… bakit nyo sinisisi ang university na maraming failed na students, hindi ang university ang may kasalanan kundi ung student. binigyan lang ng chance ang University na ipagpatuloy ang pangarap ng students alam nyo ang friend ko na kick out sa SLU pag hindi sinalo ng BCU wala na sana sa America na nagwowork, matagumpay na nurse na sya ngayon, kaya nagpapasalamat kami sa BCU dahil sa School nya pumasa sya ng state board nya,so, sa tingin nyo ba Kung SLU lahat na school, natupad kaya ang pangarap ang kaibigan ko na maging matagumpay na nurse?malamang hindi….funny funny funny funny funny funny
Hi Jocel,
If it were merely up to the student ONLY, and not the schools, to pass the licensure exams and prepare for the profession, then we won’t need the schools will we?
On a case to case basis, students from schools with a poor over all performance can even have board topnotchers! But it is in the public interest to pressure the schools to raise their educational standards — which means to pay more attention to individual students to perform well so that more will pass, instead of merely handing out diplomas and then being proven lacking in the performance of their duty.
Hi Lisa,
Thought of doing another round of search for jeff imson. found out you got a reply pala sa message ko. Ikaw po ba ung administrator nitong site? (well, obviously..hehe).
Danny Imson is Jeff’s brother. He’s an excellent musician.
You have an idea where jeffrey works/lives now? May utang kasi ako sa kanya. hehehehe. You can email/text me anytime. Thanks and i appreciate your kindness.
Michael
SLU’s great performance is attributed to the excellent performance of its’ leaders (Dean Lacanaria and colleagues in CON-SLU). Following that at babysteps was Easter College. We were so proud at Easter College before for having Dean Ruth Thelma Tingda who is nonetheless the current chairperson of the Philippine Nurses Association( the highest position in PNA).
EC was popular even with lowlanders because as early as our 3rd year in college we were already exposed to special areas (OB,DR,etc.) unlike other schools which have them at their 4th year(a new grad at urdaneta informed us), as a matter of fact EC was 2nd to SLU in northern luzon and 10th/11th nationwide. EC yielded high passing rates on three consecutive board exams outpassing more popular and established schools like UB,PCC,UC and BCU.
SLU even adviced kicked out nursing students to transfer at EC because of the credibility of dean Tingda as one of the best nursing educators in the country. That was the case before dean Tingda’s resignation however things turned ugly.
The current dean Mar**** Caluga* is a novice with no ample training and experience in leadership and definitely not endowed with people skills. She walks out of the room if people like our parents and C.I.s’ don’t agree with her idiotic proposals(ex.changing 9 hospital rotations into 5?even CHED laughed at this crazy proposal, what a shame!haha).
EC’s enhancement program which is more likely an in-house review for graduating students was supposed to start last december but the “all knowing dean” did nothing. Now some of the C.I’s and parents planned to confront her on this and even planned to establish a “review center” outside EC, but the dean threatened them that they would be facing charges thus our parents and C.I.s were left with no choice but to wait.
Our C.I.s who grew impatient with the neglect of the dean wrote a “letter” which was the culprit of a full blown libel case.
With this kind of attitude of the incumbent dean there is no doubt that EC would go down to the rank of unsatisfactory performing schools like UC,UB,PCC,BCU,NU,STI,AMA.
The dean hires relatives and incompetent C.I.s(example from our schoolmates experience:may napadpad na former instructor sa Pines who teaches non standard clinical practice and demands pork chop for meals in community exposures ang hirap kaya ng buhay ngayon!these poor students only offered Instant pancit canton and they were laughed at!
Good thing dean Tingda is now the new dean of CCDC-CON and we are contemplating on transferring.I strongly believe that it’s not the name of the school that matters but learning from the best people right? With Dean Tingda in CCDC there is no doubt it would establish a name on its’ own…
Hi Easterite,
“EC’s enhancement program which is more likely an in-house review for graduating students was supposed to start last december but the “all knowing dean” did nothing. Now some of the C.I’s and parents planned to confront her on this and even planned to establish a “review center” outside EC, but the dean threatened them that they would be facing charges thus our parents and C.I.s were left with no choice but to wait.”
Thanks for letting folks know what’s going on there. I really think that schools should at least LISTEN to their CUSTOMERS — students, parents — and STAFF Clinical Instructors, too. Arrogance should never reign in an educational institution.
What I don’t get from your story is, what can the legal charge be if the students, parents and/or CIs decide to establish a review center outside of Easter College?
We are not certain on the grounds or charges that might be penalized on them,i think it’s in the school’s policy not to operate reviews/co-curricular activities without the knowledge and consent of the admin or maybe it’s just an admin sanction that will be imposed. All that we know is that “dean calugan” takes everything too personally as in not in the making of a good professional.
EC has been terrorized by an incapable dean and an administration tolerating this kind of mismanagement. If they want to salvage/save EC they should replace that dean together with those incompetent nurses/C.Is (who can’t even speak correct english ). We know that there is no perfect institution but the odd thing is when people in authority choose to do nothing.
BGH, BeGH along with Lepanto hospital not to brag preferred EC nursing students for their performance and attitude because EC SN could be left alone with minimal supervision from the C.Is and staff nurses,now, too bad the school itself causes too much stress on us students which would greatly affect our performance.
I forgot to write about an incident about one of our C.I.s who was harassed by two unidentified men to stop on throwing tirades on Calugan, she(our C.I.) was robbed and threatened to get back on her family if she insist on doing so.
We too are now afraid of just setting foot on EC because we who are vocal about our opposition to the sub-standard leadership of Calugan might experience this same act of terrorism, mind you EC tag itself as a “Christian Institution”.
We just hope that the BOT and administration of EC would come into their right nerves to kick Calugan out of the college along with her disciples.
Hi again Easterite,
Maybe you could try to go “above the heads” of your heads to let them know what you think. For example, write to the school president, and if that does not work, then write to CHED and/or the PNA or something. Maybe a petition to let them know that many of you feel this way? Do you have a student council? Maybe you can involve them too?
My point here is this: While I do not really know nor can I say I fully understand your issues, I am all for students’ rights and welfare, and have a healthy respect for dialogue and totally reject authoritarianism.
I am worried if what you say is true — that threat and intimidation is being used to silence folks. For no one must be silenced, and everyone allowed to sell their ideas in the “marketplace of ideas” for acceptance or rejection. In other words, apathy, resignation and hopelessness will simply not make life better for all concerned. When something like that happens, please remember that the police must be informed, too, so you guys can show a pattern of violence.
Remember that you guys are stronger if you work together, sticking to your principles, not only to set things straight, but to lay the foundations for learning for future generations.
Good luck!
excuse me lang po ha sa BCU at pines claiming na home of topnotchers sila. e iyon pong mga iyon eh second coursers from SLU.hehe.malimali pa english ng mga taga pines kaya naman no doubt nakasanction hehe.lapit na magsara.
FYI: STI COLLEGE BAGUIO PASSING RATE FOR PHILIPPINES NURSES LICENSURE EXAMINATION:
JUNE 2008 = 80%
NOV 2008 = 80%
Hi Lisa,
Congrats to this site. Apparently it’s flourishing. And with the nursing licensure exam just held recently, I’m sure new throng of messages will take place not too long from now.
Well, sorry if I seem to get too enthusiastic about getting my friend, Jeffrey Imson’s whereabouts. I just thought you are an angel in disguise who could help me.
Here’s my contact number should you happen to bump into Danilo’s course (just in case, not a usual requirement to you ma’am, as I’m sure this is becoming haughtier to you.. )
Michael
09065583418
09228346699
or my email address (which is a required input prior to this message.
Hi Lisa,
(Public Service mode
) Are there any feedback re Jeff/Danny Imson? Thanks. 
Hello Lisa,
Just got to come across your website. It’s fantastic! Great stuff on Baguio, including current issues that need to be addressed. Came across this long thread on nursing schools, and really appreciate how people can openly discuss their opinions here. I am working for one of these nursing schools in Baguio, and one of first priorities in improving its services is to hire a great H.R. Director (focusing on sourcing good faculty and staff). We are also hiring a SAO/Student Affairs office Director. Was wondering if you knew anyone that would fit the bill? It would be a great help, and a service to many students. Please feel free to contact me, Tina Aguila at +074.4459063 (PCC landline, connect to Dr. Guerrero’s Office) or email resumes at pinescityhr@gmail.com. Woohoo, yup, PCC strives to give you the best, watch out for next year!
Thanks so much Lisa and really love the work you’re doin on this site 
uc-bcf still the best lol!!!
Forget about that passing rate, the important thing now is how to make money hahahaha. all those medical graduates come here in Middle East (but not in Saudi mababa bigayan dyn) no need to go American Countries (Canada, Australia, US, UK wlang pera dyn lol!), you’re just like a slaves there. We, Engineers are more fortunate than other professions. I saw many of my former classmates and instructors working here in soooo many consultant and construction firms in Doha, Dubai and Abu Dhabi. (I urge also those nurses out there to try there luck here)…Your salary in the Phils for one or two yrs, you can easily get that here in one month (how cool is it hehehe)…..
magaling talaga ang BCU pagdating sa nursing Home of topnotcher talaga bkit ba hindi yan matanggap ng ibang school patunanyan nyo nga… kaya nyo ba mag produce ng TOP ONE? only here at BCU yan BAGUIO CENTRAL UNIVERSITY…. congrats nga pla sa my co-producer ng topnotchers Pines City Colleges “40th years in Nursing Education” BONGGA!
BAGUIO CENTRAL UNIVERSITY
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PINES CITY COLLEGES for Board topnotcher
SLU
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Easter College for high Board performance
sana wag ito burahin….
thanks LISA….
oo nga nmn taggapin nyo na sa nursing
BAGUIO CENTRAL UNIVERSITY at PINES CITY COLLEGES lang Home of topnotchers
sa BAGUIO CITY
bago magreact my top ONE ba kayo?
BCU Bloom…..
bago magreact matagal nb kau?
PCC Bloom…..
thanks LIZA for this site.
I’m not a nurse but i came across with your website when i was looking for the July 12 issue of the baguio midland courier issue of july 12.I spent almost nearly an hour reading some comments and your reply as well.I’m not a grammar expert but i noticed some of your clients who are now claiming or they are actually RN’s are sending their comments without being aware of their basic grammar structure,though it reflects(maybe)what university they’re from.It’s a bit interesting to continue reading a website where young people expect to enrich their basic english skills in reading opinions or personal views,comments on a particular topic,etc if it is written under the blessing of good grammar or english structure.Thanks so much Lisa…I’ll be back soon..
Hi Samson,
I so agree with you that the grammar of these Baguio students is a bit wanting. While this deficiency can be traced to their elementary and high school education, they are nevertheless accepted in Baguio universities regardless of their proficiency in the written and spoken languages of English and Filipino, because most of the schools here do not have any entrance exams.
Of course they provide the ostensibly altruistic reason that each person deserves a chance at a degree, but they are actually short-changing the students by not setting higher standards for admission (except the continuous increase in student fees).
What we see now are students who will be facing qualifying and licensure exams and who, on a regular basis, cannot spell correctly or form proper sentences (well, we have sms partly to blame for that, too) because more is not demanded of them, the same way they are so accustomed to not demanding more from their schools.
I am thinking now that a lot of the words I have written so far
haveprobably would be lost on a huge chunk of my readership who are not able to discern sarcasm or wit because these words are probably not even in their vocabulary — hahaha — and it does not seem that they were taught literary devices by their teachers either.Woe to Baguio, woe to the Philippines. We as individuals have so much to offer the world but a lot of us are poorly taught these days.
I am hoping that the owners of schools all over the country will look less at the bottom line and more at the vocations of their founders in providing superior education to their countrymen. I wish they would stop setting such low standards for the issuance of diplomas, too, especially in Baguio City where the mayor (a school owner) unilaterally declared a paradigm shift AWAY from tourism toward (his school’s brand of) education.
Sigh…
Thanks for dropping by and posting your thoughts and I hope to “see you around” this blog sooner than later.
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It is not good to measure others against your own strength,by comparing your school just to prove that your institution is the best. If you are educated man you are suppose to be possessed by humbleness. I am asking not to delete my message, and your participation Miss Lisa is highly appreciated to this message for the awareness of others, to see if they are really molded by their colleges or university with good attitude that binds their knowledge and skill to be A HUMBLE EDUCATED MAN.
Thanks, I hope this message helps you a lot.
Hi Frances,
There is something admirable about pride in one’s alma mater. But at the same time, there is always such a thing as analytical thinking. Blind loyalty is sad and mostly stupid, because one must also make sure that the students who come after you get a better deal than you did, which means we have to be DEMANDING when it comes to where we studied for our sake (while we are studying) and for the sake of future generations.
I agree that humility is one of the highest virtues of a truly educated person. When you see commenterss rah rah for their schools, they are not really being boastful, just insecure because their schools’ performance overall has been dismal.
I always say, the mark of a good school is their PASSING AVERAGE (meaning they did not just charge tuition and leave the students to fend for themselves — anyone convinced that it is all about the individual must not be very smart to begin with) while the achievement of TOPPING an exam depends on the person, although the school helps a lot.
For example, UC Law School does not have such a great passing average compared to UP Law or Ateneo Law, but they had two graduates who topped the bar exams eight years apart. But UP and Ateneo will be considered superior schools to UC because their teaching and training prepares a huge majority of their graduates to pass the bar and excel in the practice of law.
I am certain your message of humility will help others find themselves. Thanks for stopping by to post it.
Hi lisa,
Can i have your email address, just wanna ask some few questions regarding studying english in bagiuo.
thanks.
How can WE develop PEACE in our country if some school even those leading university produced a war freak individual not knowing themselves. I can see here that everyone has a solid loyalty in their alma mater and that is good. But real loyalty refer to accepting every little things that your institution had, either it is good or bad. I was impressed how other school depend their alma mater without saying bad as an answer to the comments of others.
Thanks for reading…
Thank you Lisa for posting my message…
shoutout: “HUMBLE EDUCATED MAN”
MARAMING SALAMAT PO!
Hi,
I am looking for my 2 messages, I do not think that there is wrong with that message. Where is my message?
Hi Frances,
I approved ALL the comments in my comment queue in the past few days, and I just reviewed them a few minutes to look for two messages from you and found nothing there. Just resend them nalang.
What’s Frances’ problem?
Hey, I read about Samson Roman’s observation, and I admire how lisa delivers her POV and finally brings the concern to the attention of the mayor, and to the wanting bloggers. Now, that’s modern-day propagandistic pun. Kudos!
And I quote: I am thinking now that a lot of the words I have written so far have probably would be lost on a huge chunk of my readership who are not able to discern sarcasm or wit because these words are probably not even in their vocabulary — hahaha — and it does not seem that they were taught literary devices by their teachers either…and unquote.
I say this is a good pun but lisa you better check out on this – “…have probably would be…”
Prove that this blog site is not wanting from neutralism and faithful representation by posting this message! Hehe. Thanks!
But the thing here really is that this whole thing — the nursing schools, the loyalty, the humility, the boasting, the grammar, the rah rah — these make this blog successful indeed! A whole lot of readers (even non-nurses like me who’s a cpa) cry out idiosyncratic views over almost non-sense topics (like this! haha!). And lisa has made a wonderful forum out of it.
Kanya-kanya ng trip hokei? Walang pansinan ng grammar! Hehehe.
(O baka naman ibang topic na naman toh – GRAMMAR?! WAAAAHH!)
Hi Michael,
Hahaha, thanks for that. I should have deleted the word “have.” Sorry for that. I type fast then press publish — not too much editing done here if you peruse all other articles that have typos, too. Lemme (oh divah shlang) fix that by striking that extra word out.
I think Frances is upset that her next comments were not published but I found none in my queue. She also hasn’t re-sent them yet.
@ formereasterite
It takes two to tango…
Its a nice thing that you came up with such a great blog Mam Liza. Looking back from the past blogs, it seems that we’re caught in such conflicts that students and also graduates are bit paranoid about proving that their school is the best or shall I say exceptional. If we look at it, morality is being over driven by pride and it is not an ideal of an educated person. I’m not here to condemn but just reminding us to be humble. Quoting from it;
“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.* Albert Einstein”
Hi Jack Sparrow,
I remember when I was a student and I thought I knew EVERYTHING, more than my mom or the oldies, that I was exposed to all the modern ways of thinking and doing things. The funny thing is, the older I get, the more “I know not that I KNEW not!”
I so agree with the need for humility. Sometimes insecurity masquerades as pride. I believe this is the case here, where students are facing such an uncertain future because of strange political and economic times and the poor quality of education. The students, not having studied elsewhere or been exposed to real life do not understand how they are being short-changed.
The ones who should be strung by the balls are those people who are underdelivering — the schools, the politicians and all those who are greedy.
And we must keep the faith, that things will get better because WE will insist that they get better.
“kung saan ka nagraduate na school, dapat u should be proud of it…” TAMA!
Maski nag graduate ako sa tinatawag nilang “money making” schools doesnt bother me – bakit sila din naman… mageenroll ang hundreds of students then, may cut off pala? ayan pinagpeperahan din naman sila – at saan naman pupunta ang hindi kasama sa cut-off? QUALITY BA YAN??? funny no, they get rid of them para lang matawag na TOP performing schools? well talagang ganyan, even some clinical instructors from that school are naawa sa mga naaalis..
Top rated college in NLE? because of their strict screening program. Screening program that maintained their name on top. Where above average IQ belong. How about average and below average IQ? Lets analyze. If you are a leader of a group and your group composed of topnotchers what you will expect? of course good performance, but if your group composed of different IQ of course expect a low performance than the other group. We can not compare totally the two colleges of nursing if they having a different way of management. Some school is practicing strict screening program and some school believe that everyone has a right for EDUCATION that they want to pursue like BSN.
Ya your right Mr. Margoth, it doesn’t really have to do with school issue. Its up to the persons belief and what you have said concerning the cut off? Well hell ya..I’m one of them, though i believe in someway that it’s in the institution idealism that they ‘re doing it. As reason that their ensuring the the quality of education. Maybe it is just on the management of certain individuals that i would point off. Just as you said, they have cut off and only few of those students where able to make it to 3rd year which mean a big lose for those who didn’t make it. And yes there is agreement( Before you enter at their institution) that they have screening process which tackles all, as for attitude, academic performance etc.
It is really good to have processes like this to ensure the quality of learning to students. It just have to further refined it. As for my opinion why would you lose 800 student of yours if u can still make them as a registered nurse with the institution goal. Their are alternatives such as having second chances for those who failed? Ill bet they will grabbed the opportunity for that. It is a sense of going back to the right direction.^^ Or if not, why only get what is the needed number of students? It is just a personal opinion.
At the end , It is still at the student and the institution that molds him/her to be professional individual. Quoting again;
“Through hard work,anyone can persevere”
I want to acknowledge those leading school of nursing in the Philippines, specially in Baguio City… And I want to emphasize also those school of nursing having a huge population,trying their best to give the best to those who want to be an RN. That’s what we call DEDICATION.
Nice comment jack sparrow…
Anyone here who knows Jeffrey Imson? Please let me know. He’s a friend and I’ve been trying to get in touch with him for quite a time now. Thanks.
Contact details:
Michael
iamhonz@yahoo.com
to be honest, what matter most’s the ability of your school to prepare you as a confident and competent nurse. regardless of where you graduate from, it is your prc license that counts most. dont mind how many times you take the board. if you fail, prepare and take the exam again.
slu screens their students. it is a long time tradition as the school aims for a 100% passing score for all their graduates.
pcec? i got a good number of friends who are graduates of this school and now are practicing the profession worldwide.
bcu? i was once a ci there and been a mentor to their first set of graduates. i should have stayed if not been offered to take similar post in slu..
anyhow, stop the crap of bashing and flaming. it wont make you any better. just smile and have fun.. and like what i’ve said, it doesnt matter where a student have graduated from nor how many times he/she took the board exam. the most important thing’s you managed to get your license at last and youre practicing somewhere else in the map.
cheers every one.
scintilla 93
scintilla 93
Scintilla 93,
We are talking here about the responsibility of your school to make you both a competent nurse and make sure you pass your licensure exams. Failing that, failing hundreds and hundreds of graduates per semester betrays the students and short changes them.
Not only should you be good in your profession, schools should also train you to THINK correctly and process matters in an analytical manner. By your comments, it is evident that many graduate with a narrow view of things, selfish in fact, because you do not lament the fact that bigger numbers fail than succeed.
To provide substandard education is a crime. Substandard is if they fail to make big majority of their students pass. PCEC’s 28% passing average is abysmal.
Read the article again and understand the points — if a school can only manage 28%, or 43% that is EVIDENCE that they cannot properly educate the numbers they enroll, that they should in fact reduce their admissions to a smaller number by setting standards and systems that will provide my countrymen quality education.
I will not accept anything less for the youth.
very well said…
[quote]By your comments, it is evident that many graduate with a narrow view of things, selfish in fact, because you do not lament the fact that bigger numbers fail than succeed. [/quote]it all boils down to what the school gears to behind the back. face it.. majority of nursing schools with par below average board examination rating are but for the money of the students. they dont actually prepare the students to pass the board examination in the first place and that’s where top performing nursing schools got an edge.
reality check. you can not work as an RN if you dont pass the board. worst, even if you are top 1 board examinee, you are not guaranteed a work anywhere in the world if you dont have atleast 1 year legitimate hospital experience. even top graduates doesnt even know how to cannulate a patient. i recruit nurses in the healthcare institution im currently working.. and it doesnt really matter where you graduated from nor how many times you took the board exam.. what matters most is you have the necessary experience i require and of course, you are able to communicate and express yourself properly.
peace every one.
bghsn closed down in the early 80’s because lots of government run schools cannot or were hardly subsidized by the government then(up to now actually).it has been an institution of nursing(bghsn)that placed baguio as a leading supplier of excellent nurses abroad specially the US.bghsn as a school is comparable to UP nursing because the student nurses were screened strictly upon admission and again upon every close of the semester that is the reason why with a 200 student upon admission only 50 survives to make it on graduation.clinical nursing is very very hectic then because students were required to work just like the staff nurses(we practically own the clinical rotation with bghmc w/o other affiliate students)and you how big the hospital and the volume of patients at any given time.did you know that the commanding general of the AFP Nursing corp is a BGHSN graduate?The 1979 nursing board placed bghsn at 97% passing rate.prior nursing boards were at 90% average.Clinical instructors at SLU came from bghsn during the formative years of SLU college of nursing,the same too with MSAC now the Benguet State Univ. and Notre dame.It takes discipline,determination,patience and love for the profession to truly become a Real and True nurse.
Graduate ako nag isang school sa Baguio. I served 20 years sa government service then plan to go on optional retirement to serve my remaining prime years overseas. I have seen graduates of prestigious schools whom I could say were not succesful in there careers. I have also seen people who were products of unkown schools yet they were sucessful in there chosen careers. Marami diyan who claim they have the best training and discipline because it is what there school is known for but as years go by they were corrupted along way. Wala yan sa pangalan nag school nasa tao yan.
Dragonass,
Congratulations on you personal success. But the issue here is not which school the students should go to but which school is delivering the good education a student deserves.
And because there are exams so that the students can practice their desired profession, it is the school’s responsibility to make them pass. To excel in the exam or in the profession, na sa tao nga yan.
But there are many schools in Baguio that merely collect the tuition and to not give the students their money’s worth, in my opinion.
I AM A GRADUATE OF BAGUIO CENTRAL UNIVERSITY FIRST BATCH.AT PRESENT I AM WORKING AS SENIOR STAFF NURSE IN ACUTE AND ONE OF THE BUSIEST HOSPITAL IN LONDON.I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A STUDENT OBVIOUS NA ANG TINGIN SA AMIN NG MGA TAGA BGH STAFF AY MAHIHINA KAMI.SOBRA SI MRS CAMPANOS MAKASIGAW PATI SA AKIN.KUNG DITO SYA SA LONDON HINDI SYA MAKAKAPORMA NG GANON TANGAL REGISTRATION NYA.
ANYWAY, WALA YAN SA SCHOOL.ANG IMPORTANTE MAGALING ANG COMMUNICATION SKILLS MO PARA MAIPASA MO MGA INTERVIEWS. PAGDATING MO DITO SA LONDON PAREPAREHO KAYO.THANKS TO BAGUIO CENTRAL FOR IT PROVIDED ME WITH EMOTIONAL COMFORT TO MAKE LEARNING CONDUCIVE FOR ME.I BELEIVE SLU TURNED DOWN AND DID NOT GAVE A CHANCE TO A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO GOT POTENTIAL.MASYADO LANG SARADO ANG STANDARD NILA.ANYWAY TO ALL NURSING STUDENTS HINDI LAHAT ACADEMICS. DAPAT MAMOLD ANG SKILL TO BE ASSERTIVE AND COMMUNICATION SKILLS.AT THE END OF THE DAY LAHAT TAYO PINAG NURSING NG PARENTS NATIN PARA MAKA ABROAD.PAG DATING ABROAD WALA NG MAGTATANONG SA YO KUNG SAAN KA GRDUATE.ANG ITATANONG SA IYO SAAN KA NAKABILI NG CONDO/ANO KOTSE MO.
MORAL LESSON; KAHIT SAAN KANG SCHOOL MAG ARAL KANG MABUTI.HINDI MO RIN KAILANGAN SUPER TALINO KA.SABI KO NGA HINDI AKO MATALINO MADISKARTE KA.YUN LANG PO
Hi Liza,
Some schools(if they can be identified as such) especially the administrators thinks of how can they entice students to enroll at their “schools” most specially in the field of nursing. One “school” practice is to affiliate at hospitals. Maybe I am correct, maybe I am wrong, BUT, their modus operandi is if the hospital affiliate charges affiliation fee of 30.00 pesos per hour/student, the “school” charges the student from 40 – 50 pesos per hour. Nursing students are required to render at least 300 hrs minimum in the hospital. So do the math, 1 student affiliate pays the school at least 12,000 – 15,000 pesos, the 9,000 is paid to the hospital and the remaining amount goes to the school, multiply that by over a thousand nursing students per year, these schools are making a killing out of the affiliations. Remember that hospitals have no obligation to these schools, it is the school who are running after these hospitals so that they be affiliated…. In all fields talaga, mukhang pera ang mga admin na eto… (Ive checked on the school of nursing of a university here in baguio and san fernando who have their own hospitals, the affiliation fees are very very minimal compared to this school along b——n road. Grabe…Kung ako ang magulang, hindi ko sila pag-enrolin dito.
wala kasi sa school yan nasa student yan kung gusto talaga ng student pumasa regardless sa school na pinapasukan. EXAMPLe sa SLU kinukuha talaga nila yung deserving student na talagang gusto ang nursing
hi guys..
I’ve been reading all these rattling and bragging and comparing of universities and colleges here in Baguio and their percentages of passers and failures with regards to board exams and I’m totally pissed off. Let me ask you guys: does the name or status of the school you study in determine your capability to pass a licensure exam? I believe the capability to pass an exam boils down on the individual and on the individual alone.. Yes these schools may offer standard, substandard or high quality education but how you utilize this knowledge will determine your success in the future. yes you may be a graduate of a prestigious school, a substandard college or a school boasting of years of teaching but did you really learn in that institution? how did you make use of the time and information provided to you by that school? You are all alumni of your own schools, be proud of it and don’t compare. Cause it was your own decision to enter and study in such institution, always be thankful of whatever you have gained and learned, treasure and utilize it to the fullest. If you felt there was something missing or lacking, its your own initiative to fill in that gap. your success is determined by your capability to learn and apply learning in the real world. You wouldn’t always be asked from what university you came but on what you know that is relevant and important in that specific field.
Sorry guys, I just want to put an end to these issue..